Do you like pina coladas? Getting caught in the rain? How about joining Greg Tito and Shelly Mazzanoble for this week's Dragon Talk! Eugenio Vargas (DM Jazzy Hands) joins them as Dungeon Master for the actual play podcast The Last Refuge (as well as a great many other projects). Plus, not six, not seven, but in today's Lore You Should Know, Chris Perkins discusses The Dark Eight!


Here’s a guide to when each segment on the podcast begins:

00:00: Intro with Greg Tito and Shelly Mazzanoble

11:19: Lore You Should Know with Chris Perkins

29:39: Interview with Eugenio Vargas

1:27:22: Outro with Greg Tito and Shelly Mazzanoble

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About the Guests:

Eugenio Vargas 

Eugenio Vargas (aka DM Jazzy Hands) is the Dungeon Master for the actual play podcast The Last Refuge ( In addition to The Last Refuge, Eugenio is on the Creative Council for the Variant Roles Twitch channel and has streamed games on Variant Roles, The Greyhawk Channel, and Encounter Roleplay. Outside of actual play content, he has two adventures available on the DMs Guild, has spoken on panels at GaymerX East and PAX East, and has been interviewed on Tabletop Voices with James Introcaso. Outside of gaming, he is an actor and a musical director, performing and conducting orchestras around the country.

Your Podcast Hosts

Greg Tito

Greg Tito has had weird and long career as an Off Broadway stage manager, a playwright, a theater carpenter, a secretary, an RPG designer, a games journalist, and now a PR/Marketing person. He has loved Dungeons & Dragons ever since 1985 when he found an old copy of the AD&D Dungeon Master’s Guide on his brother’s bookshelf and he honed that love of fantasy storytelling in the dark streets of Sasserine by way of the Upper West Side gaming group he joined in 2004. He moved his family (wife + two young kids) to Seattle in 2015 to work on D&D and he’s never looked back.

Shelly Mazzanoble

Shelly Mazzanoble will always play a magic-user. There. She said it. Enough pretending to want to break out of her comfort zone. She’s a magic-user. She’s also the brand lead for Avalon Hill and loves talking about that one time she played Diplomacy and SOMEONE (okay, it was Ben Petrisor) stabbed her in the back and took over her beloved Russia. If you enjoy tales of sorcery, board game upheavals, and reasons her 3 year-old is crying (HINT: She tried to make him eat a Nutella crepe), find Shelly on Twitter and Facebook.