Greg and Shelly welcome you to the show. Afterwards, we welcome back Associate Game Designer Makenzie De Armas for another edition of Meet Your Monsters. This week, Mackenzie discusses the Bakunawa. Our special interview this week is with former Game Designer for D&D and now one of the creators of Mysterious Alchemy, Adam Lee!

For general inquiries or show messages, please email Dragon Talk is executively produced by Greg Tito, Shelly Mazzanoble & Wizards of The Coast. Show production by Lisa Carr & Ryan Marth of Siren Sound. Podcast recording, editing, mixing and mastering by Ryan Marth & Siren Sound.


Show open with Greg Tito and Shelly Mazzanoble - 0:00

Meet Your Monsters - 2:50

Interview - 27:02

Outro - 1:22:32


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Podcast Guests


Adam Lee worked for over a decade at Wizards of the Coast creating worlds, stories, characters, and adventures for Magic: the Gathering and Dungeons & Dragons.

In November of 2021 he left Wizards to set out on his own, creating an IP development company, Mysterious Alchemy, with his long-time pal, Ari Levitch. Together, they are making stories and creating worlds for AAA games, and creating content for TRPG studios.

For as long as he can remember, Adam has been fascinated by Tarot cards and has used them to help people find their path through life's great mystery. Helping to create the D&D Tarot deck was one of his most favorite jobs while working at Wizards.

Find Adam on:

twitter @adamofadventure |

Your Podcast Hosts


Greg Tito

Greg Tito has had weird and long career as an Off Broadway stage manager, a playwright, a theater carpenter, a secretary, an RPG designer, a games journalist, and now a PR/Marketing person. He has loved Dungeons & Dragons ever since 1985 when he found an old copy of the AD&D Dungeon Master’s Guide on his brother’s bookshelf and he honed that love of fantasy storytelling in the dark streets of Sasserine by way of the Upper West Side gaming group he joined in 2004. He moved his family (wife + two young kids) to Seattle in 2015 to work on D&D and he’s never looked back.

Shelly Mazzanoble

Shelly Mazzanoble will always play a magic-user. There. She said it. Enough pretending to want to break out of her comfort zone. She’s a magic-user. She’s also the brand lead for Avalon Hill and loves talking about that one time she played Diplomacy and SOMEONE (okay, it was Ben Petrisor) stabbed her in the back and took over her beloved Russia. If you enjoy tales of sorcery, board game upheavals, and reasons her 3 year-old is crying (HINT: She tried to make him eat a Nutella crepe), find Shelly on Twitter and Facebook.