Adam Johns (@adamjohns) and Adam Davis (@HerestoPandsPen.) from Wheelhouse Workshop (@wheelhousews) drop into the studio to talk about how they use D&D to help kids and adults practice social skills and make friends. Sage Advice – Jeremy Crawford (@jeremyecrawford) discusses “table rules” or ways in which you can use the rules of D&D fifth edition to manage your game. Watch Dragon Talk recordings live on Mondays at 2pm PT!

Here’s a guide to when each segment on the podcast begins:

00:00 – Intro with Greg Tito (@gregtito), Shelly Mazzanoble (@shellymoo) + the Adams!

06:12 – Sage Advice – DM Etiquette

37:14  – Interview with Adam Johns (@adamjohns) and Adam Davis (@HerestoPandsPen)

01:19:12 – Outro with Greg, Shelly

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Adam Johns – MA LMFT


Adam Johns earned his Master’s degree in couple and family therapy at Antioch University after earning his Bachelor’s in Psychology from the University of Arizona.  In addition to his work with Wheelhouse Workshop, Adam is a therapist in private practice.  Adam Johns has been playing tabletop role-playing games for 20 years, and is very involved in the geek community.  He also volunteers with Take This.

Adam Davis – MEd


Adam Davis earned a Master’s degree in Education with a focus in Drama Therapy from Antioch University Seattle, and is a recognized member of the North American Drama Therapy Association.  He brings his vast experience and training working with youth and his decades of experience with role-playing games to Wheelhouse Workshop.  Adam is a contributing author to The Walking Dead Psychology, and has also served as a public school teacher for Seattle Public Schools.

Host Bios

Greg Tito

Greg Tito has had weird and long career as an Off Broadway stage manager, a playwright, a theater carpenter, a secretary, an RPG designer, a games journalist, and now a PR/Marketing person. He has loved Dungeons & Dragons ever since 1985 when he found an old copy of the AD&D Dungeon Master’s Guide on his brother’s bookshelf and he honed that love of fantasy storytelling in the dark streets of Sasserine by way of the Upper West Side gaming group he joined in 2004. He moved his family (wife + two young kids) to Seattle in 2015 to work on D&D and he’s never looked back. You can find Greg on Twitter.

Shelly Mazzanoble

Shelly Mazzanoble will always play a magic-user. There. She said it. Enough pretending to want to break out of her comfort zone. She’s a magic-user. She’s also the brand lead for Avalon Hill and loves talking about that one time she played Diplomacy and SOMEONE (okay, it was Ben Petrisor) stabbed her in the back and took over her beloved Russia. If you enjoy tales of sorcery, board game upheavals, and reasons her 3 year-old is crying (HINT: She tried to make him eat a Nutella crepe), find Shelly on Twitter and Facebook.