Ivan Van Norman & Caleb Cleveland on ABCs & 123s of D&D
Dragon Talk - 11/15/2018
We at Dragon Talk believe the children are our future. We plan to teach them well and let them lead the way by reading them the amazing children’s books – The ABCs of D&D and The 123s of D&D – out everywhere now. Author Ivan Van Norman & illustrator Caleb Cleveland join hosts Greg Tito & Shelly Mazzanoble for a fun interview detailing their experiences introducing D&D to their kids, what the challenges were putting the books together and important parenting advice by Shelly. Lore You Should Know – Ari Levitch talk about two guilds in Guildmasters’ Guide to Ravnica – the Orzhov Syndicate and shady House Dimir.
Dragon Talk - 11/15/2018
Here’s a guide to when each segment on the podcast begins:
00:00: Intro with Greg Tito & Shelly Mazzanoble
13:55: Lore You Should Know with Ari Levitch
47:20: Interview with Ivan Van Norman & Caleb Cleveland
1:39:55: Outro with Greg Tito & Shelly Mazzanoble
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Greg Tito
Greg Tito has had weird and long career as an Off Broadway stage manager, a playwright, a theater carpenter, a secretary, an RPG designer, a games journalist, and now a PR/Marketing person. He has loved Dungeons & Dragons ever since 1985 when he found an old copy of the AD&D Dungeon Master’s Guide on his brother’s bookshelf and he honed that love of fantasy storytelling in the dark streets of Sasserine by way of the Upper West Side gaming group he joined in 2004. He moved his family (wife + two young kids) to Seattle in 2015 to work on D&D and he’s never looked back.

Shelly Mazzanoble
Shelly Mazzanoble will always play a magic-user. There. She said it. Enough pretending to want to break out of her comfort zone. She’s a magic-user. She’s also the brand lead for Avalon Hill and loves talking about that one time she played Diplomacy and SOMEONE (okay, it was Ben Petrisor) stabbed her in the back and took over her beloved Russia. If you enjoy tales of sorcery, board game upheavals, and reasons her 3 year-old is crying (HINT: She tried to make him eat a Nutella crepe), find Shelly on Twitter and Facebook.