Geoffrey Zatkin (@geoffreyzatkin) and Demetri Detsaridis (@detsaridis) from Experiment 7 call in from GDC to unload their D&D-cred on us and the possibilities of VR starting with Dungeon Chess! Hosts Shelly Mazzanoble (@shellymoo) and Greg Tito (@gregtito) do some time-traveling talk of snow.  Lore You Should Know – Matt Sernett (@Sernett) talks about the fun of the Moonshae Isles, an archipelago full of interesting and sometimes contrasting cultures. Thanks to @VeritableTwenty for the topic suggestion!

Here’s a guide to when each segment on the podcast begins:

00:00 – Intro with Greg Tito and Shelly Mazzanoble

05:36 – Lore You Should Know – Moonshae Isles (New: See bibliography below)

26:35 – Interview with Geoffrey Zatkin and Demetri Detsaridis from Experiment 7

01:10:02 – Outro with Greg and Shelly

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Geoffrey Zatkin
Co-Founder & Creative Director

Geoffrey "GZ" Zatkin is a game designer, industry executive, and serial entrepreneur with over 20 years experience in the video game industry. One of the original designers of EverQuest and co-founder of game data giant EEDAR, Geoffrey more recently co-founded Experiment 7 and serves as its creative director. A celebrated industry speaker, analyst and futurist, Geoffrey is a frequent contributor to industry development as a presenter at GDC, PAX, and various other conferences and collegiate courses.

Demetri Detsaridis
Co-Founder & Managing Director

A veteran games industry executive and entrepreneur, Demetri Detsaridis heads Experiment 7's business and operations efforts. With a diverse leadership history including General Manager roles at Area/Code and Zynga New York as well as several years as Creative Director of previous start-up Massively Mobile, Demetri's expertise combines studio leadership, product management, and a background in game design – a valuable mix in the emerging VR market.

To learn more about this episode’s segment topic, check out the following sources:

FR2: Moonshae (1987) - by Douglas Niles

The Moonshae Trilogy – By Douglas Niles

Darkwalker on Moonshae

Black Wizards


The Druidhome Trilogy – By David NIles

Prophet of Moonshae

The Coral Kingdom

The Druid Queen

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About the Hosts

Greg Tito has had weird and long career as an Off Broadway stage manager, a playwright, a theater carpenter, a secretary, an RPG designer, a games journalist, and now a PR/Marketing person. He has loved Dungeons & Dragons ever since 1985 when he found an old copy of the AD&D Dungeon Master’s Guide on his brother’s bookshelf and he honed that love of fantasy storytelling in the dark streets of Sasserine by way of the Upper West Side gaming group he joined in 2004. He moved his family (wife + two young kids) to Seattle in 2015 to work on D&D and he’s never looked back. You can find Greg on Twitter.

Shelly Mazzanoble will always play a magic-user. There. She said it. Enough pretending to want to break out of her comfort zone. She’s a magic-user. She’s also the brand lead for Avalon Hill and loves talking about that one time she played Diplomacy and SOMEONE (okay, it was Ben Petrisor) stabbed her in the back and took over her beloved Russia. If you enjoy tales of sorcery, board game upheavals, and reasons her 3 year-old is crying (HINT: She tried to make him eat a Nutella crepe), find Shelly on Twitter and Facebook.