This week is all about Mythic Odysseys Of Theros and Explorer's Guide To Wildemount! Greg & Shelly also keep you updated on the latest happenings with D&D in our news and introductions. This week in Lore You Should Know, we are joined by D&D Narrative Designer Ari Levitch, who goes in depth on Gods of Theros in general, then more specifically Mogis & Iroas! Our special guest this week is cartographer for Explorer's Guide To Wildemount and fantasy map making extraordinaire, Deven Rue!

Dragon Talk is executively produced by Greg Tito, Shelly Mazzanoble & Wizards of the Coast. Show production by Lisa Carr & Ryan Marth of Siren Sound. Podcast recording, editing, mixing and mastering by Ryan Marth & Siren Sound


Here’s a guide to when each segment on the podcast begins:

00:00: Intro and news with Greg Tito and Shelly Mazzanoble

09:58: Lore You Should Know with Ari Levitch

41:58: Interview with Deven Rue

1:42:02: Outro

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Deven Rue

Deven Rue is a visually impaired professional fantasy cartographer & illustrator for the D&D community.  When she’s not creating maps, she’s encouraging inclusion, diversity, and accessibility within the community.  She mostly plays a ranger or druid, has a huge dice collection, is hoarding minis, and lives for the storytelling aspects of the game.

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Greg Tito

Greg Tito has had weird and long career as an Off Broadway stage manager, a playwright, a theater carpenter, a secretary, an RPG designer, a games journalist, and now a PR/Marketing person. He has loved Dungeons & Dragons ever since 1985 when he found an old copy of the AD&D Dungeon Master’s Guide on his brother’s bookshelf and he honed that love of fantasy storytelling in the dark streets of Sasserine by way of the Upper West Side gaming group he joined in 2004. He moved his family (wife + two young kids) to Seattle in 2015 to work on D&D and he’s never looked back.

Shelly Mazzanoble

Shelly Mazzanoble will always play a magic-user. There. She said it. Enough pretending to want to break out of her comfort zone. She’s a magic-user. She’s also the brand lead for Avalon Hill and loves talking about that one time she played Diplomacy and SOMEONE (okay, it was Ben Petrisor) stabbed her in the back and took over her beloved Russia. If you enjoy tales of sorcery, board game upheavals, and reasons her 3 year-old is crying (HINT: She tried to make him eat a Nutella crepe), find Shelly on Twitter and Facebook.