Greg & Shelly talk through Rick and Morty vs Dungeons & Dragons as well as Eberron: Rising From The Last War! Later, we welcome in our very own Jeremy Crawford for a special edition of Sage Advice on spell components. This week's special guest is co-host and producer of Asians Represent! podcast, Daniel Kwan.

Dragon Talk is executively produced by Greg Tito, Shelly Mazzanoble & Wizards of the Coast. Show production by Lisa Carr & Ryan Marth of Siren Sound. Podcast recording, editing, mixing and mastering by Ryan Marth & Siren Sound.



Here’s a guide to when each segment on the podcast begins:

00:00: Intro with Greg Tito and Shelly Mazzanoble

16:32: Sage Advice with Jeremy Crawford

52:08: Interview with Daniel Kwan

1:48:36: Outro with Greg Tito and Shelly Mazzanoble

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About the Guest:


Daniel Kwan

Daniel Kwan is the co-host and producer of the ENnie-nominated Asians Represent! podcast. He is passionate about highlighting the contributions of Asian creators to tabletop gaming and creating a more accessible tabletop gaming industry. Daniel is also the DM of their new “Dungeons & Da Asians” D&D actual play series. Through Dundas West Games, Daniel has published Zany Zoo, Wolf of the South, and is currently finishing Ross Rifles – a trench warfare RPG set in the Canadian trenches of World War One.

Twitter: @danielhkwan

Instagram: @danielhkwan

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Podcast: @aznsrepresent

Your Podcast Hosts

Greg Tito

Greg Tito has had weird and long career as an Off Broadway stage manager, a playwright, a theater carpenter, a secretary, an RPG designer, a games journalist, and now a PR/Marketing person. He has loved Dungeons & Dragons ever since 1985 when he found an old copy of the AD&D Dungeon Master’s Guide on his brother’s bookshelf and he honed that love of fantasy storytelling in the dark streets of Sasserine by way of the Upper West Side gaming group he joined in 2004. He moved his family (wife + two young kids) to Seattle in 2015 to work on D&D and he’s never looked back.

Shelly Mazzanoble

Shelly Mazzanoble will always play a magic-user. There. She said it. Enough pretending to want to break out of her comfort zone. She’s a magic-user. She’s also the brand lead for Avalon Hill and loves talking about that one time she played Diplomacy and SOMEONE (okay, it was Ben Petrisor) stabbed her in the back and took over her beloved Russia. If you enjoy tales of sorcery, board game upheavals, and reasons her 3 year-old is crying (HINT: She tried to make him eat a Nutella crepe), find Shelly on Twitter and Facebook.