Greg and Shelly welcome you to the show. Afterwards, Shelly welcomes back Derrick from HN2DM for another edition of How To DM. This week, Derrick gives Shelly a top 5 list on ways to engage and immerse your players. Our special interview this week is with the Global Healthy Living Foundation’s James Dybisz and Grayson Schultz!

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Show open with Greg Tito and Shelly Mazzanoble - 0:00

How To DM - 1:42

Interview - 28:12

Outro - 1:34:48


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Podcast Guests

James Dybisz

James Dybisz is the Dungeon Master of the Dungeons and Diagnoses podcast, presented by the non-profit Global Healthy Living Foundation, where he is the Manager, Web Development. Dungeons and Diagnoses is a 5th edition podcast where our heroes explore the kingdom of Gaedia, a land filled with perils and familiar monsters, but with a twist. The show's characters reflect the Global Healthy Living Foundation community, which is comprised of people living with one or more chronic diseases and who may also be part of marginalized communities. James has a long history with Dungeons and Dragons ever since he learned to play in college, where he studied Interactive Design and Game Development. After graduating, he created a unique tabletop roleplaying system called HellBent, which he played on Twitch for more than three years with friends. James uses he/him pronouns. A member of the Global Healthy Living Foundation and its digital arthritis organization, CreakyJoints, Grayson Schultz began experiencing symptoms of Systemic Juvenile Idiopathic Arthritis (SJIA) shortly after starting kindergarten. Following a tumultuous childhood without proper medical care, he has been diagnosed with multiple health issues that he's only now getting under control in his 30s. Those combined with the desire to be the person he needed when he was younger have led Grayson to a career focused on disability, chronic illness, and LGBTQ+ health. In the Dungeons and Diagnoses podcast, he plays a Wood Elf Ranger called Elrohir (El for short) who unexpectedly wakes up on the eve of his transition to adulthood ceremony having transitioned into a man. As a result, he was rejected by his Coven and set out to find his place in the world. Grayson uses he/him pronouns and, while he isn't new to D&D, he still considers himself somewhat of a novice.

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Twitter: @GHLForg, @CreakyJoints, #CreakyChats | Instagram: @creaky_joints, @creakyjoints_aus, @creakyjoints_esp

Derrick (HN2DM)

Derrick is the host and producer of "How Not to DM", a weekly TTRPG interview podcast which focuses on his guests' greatest and worst moments behind the DM screen, and their interesting projects! He was introduced to D&D by a coworker, who invited him to a new game. After starting a work group at lunch, he quickly began writing his own home brew adventures for his friends and has been running games ever since. After listening to hundreds of hours of D&D actual play podcasts, he decided to start trying to interview his favorite DMs about their experiences, good and bad, and what we could learn from them, and "How Not to DM" was born! He is a data nerd by day, and by night he likes trying new recipes and restaurants, playing and watching a variety of sports, and planning for his friends and family D&D game.

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Your Podcast Hosts


Greg Tito

Greg Tito has had weird and long career as an Off Broadway stage manager, a playwright, a theater carpenter, a secretary, an RPG designer, a games journalist, and now a PR/Marketing person. He has loved Dungeons & Dragons ever since 1985 when he found an old copy of the AD&D Dungeon Master’s Guide on his brother’s bookshelf and he honed that love of fantasy storytelling in the dark streets of Sasserine by way of the Upper West Side gaming group he joined in 2004. He moved his family (wife + two young kids) to Seattle in 2015 to work on D&D and he’s never looked back.

Shelly Mazzanoble

Shelly Mazzanoble will always play a magic-user. There. She said it. Enough pretending to want to break out of her comfort zone. She’s a magic-user. She’s also the brand lead for Avalon Hill and loves talking about that one time she played Diplomacy and SOMEONE (okay, it was Ben Petrisor) stabbed her in the back and took over her beloved Russia. If you enjoy tales of sorcery, board game upheavals, and reasons her 3 year-old is crying (HINT: She tried to make him eat a Nutella crepe), find Shelly on Twitter and Facebook.